Topic: Do you think Kelly should start putting on her concerts in larger venues?

[HBK-79]

Hey guys. I was hoping if I could get your opinion on this.

Since Kelly’s career has stabilized, I think it’s time for her take things to the next level during her next era. For her next headlining world tour, I think Kelly should perform in mid- to large-sized arenas on a consistent basis.

And she should hit the majority of these cities-


United States

Anaheim- Honda Center
Los Angeles- Staples Center
San Diego- Valley View Casino Center
Glendale- Jobing.com Arena
Phoenix- US Airways Center
San Jose- HP Pavilion
Oakland- Oracle Arena
Sacramento- Power Balance Pavilion
Portland- Rose Garden
Las Vegas- MGM Grand Garden Arena OR Mandalay Bay Events Center
Seattle- KeyArena
Tacoma- Tacoma Dome
Salt Lake City- EnergySolutions Arena
West Valley City- Maverik Center
Denver- Pepsi Center
Minneapolis- Target Center
Saint Paul- Xcel Energy Center
Milwaukee- Bradley Center
Madison- Kohl Center
Des Moines- Wells Fargo Arena
Lincoln- Pinnacle Bank Arena
Tulsa- BOK Center
Wichita- Intrust Bank Arena
Kansas City- Sprint Center
Saint Louis- Scottrade Center
Dallas- American Airlines Center
Houston- Toyota Center
Austin- Frank Erwin Center
San Antonio- AT&T Center
Chicago- United Center
Rosemont- Allstate Arena
Louisville- KFC Yum! Center
Auburn Hills- Palace of Auburn Hills
Grand Rapids- Van Andel Arena
Cleveland- Quicken Loans Arena
Columbus- Nationwide Arena OR Value City Arena
Pittsburgh- Consol Energy Center OR Petersen Events Center
Buffalo- First Niagra Center
Albany- Times Union Center
Baltimore- 1st Mariner Arena
Washington- Verizon Center
Hampton- Hampton Coliseum
Charlottesville- John Paul Jones Arena
Raleigh- PNC Center
Charlotte- Time Warner Cable Arena
Atlanta- Philips Arena
Duluth- Arena at Gwinnett Center
Orlando- Amway Center
Tampa- Tampa Bay Times Forum
Sunrise- BankAtlantic Center
Miami- American Airlines Arena
Philadelphia- Wells Fargo Center
Boston- TD Garden
Worcester- DCU Center
Hartford- XL Center
Uncasville- Mohegan Sun Arena
Providence- Dunkin Donuts Center
Newark- Prudential Center
East Rutherford- Izod Center
New York City- Barclays Center
New York City- Madison Square Garden

Canada

Toronto- Air Canada Centre
Montreal- Bell Centre
Vancouver- Rogers Arena
Edmonton- Downtown Arena
Winnipeg- MTS Centre
Ottawa- Soctiabank Place
Halifax- Halifax Metro Centre

Latin America

Mexico City- Arena Ciudad de México
San Juan- Coliseo de Puerto Rico José Miguel Agrelot

Europe

Paris- Palais Omnisports Bercy
Barcelona- Palau Sant Jordi
Madrid- Palacio de los Deportes
Lisbon- Pavilhão Atlântico
Antwerp- Antwerps Sportpaleis
Zürich- Hallenstadion
Amsterdam- Ziggo Dome
Herning- Jyske Bank Boxen
Oslo- Telenor Arena
Stockholm- Ericsson Globe
Berlin- Waldbühne
Munich- Olympiahalle
Cologne- Lanxess Arena
Hamburg- O2 World
Prague- O2 Arena
Vienna- Stadthalle
Milan- Mediolanum Forum
Verona- Arena di Verona
Birmingham- LG Arena
Leeds- Leeds Arena
Newcastle upon Tyne- Metro Radio Arena
Glasgow- Scottish Hydro Arena
Manchester- Manchester Arena
London- O2 Arena OR Earls Court Exhibition Centre
Dublin- The O2

Australia/New Zealand

Sydney- Allphones Arena
Melbourne- Rod Laver Arena
Brisbane- Brisbane Entertainment Centre
Perth- Perth Arena
Auckland- Vector Arena


What do you guys have to say?

[ericb]

I agree with you Kelly more than capable of performing at those venues,she'd could sell them all out

[Artamous]

people on kv can get mad at me but Kelly had to redoa tour schedule once with big venues and doesnt sell out as easy so the bigger venues probably arent going to be soon. When she was in Denver a month ago at the smaller venue I could still buy tickets the day before  the concert which has a capacity about 1/3 the size of Pepsi Center. She would sell more tickets but I dont think they would sell out and having lots of empty seats isnt for a concert. I would still go though

[ericb]

I think Kelly's ready,shes doing better than ever
PS:Todays the big day ART,good luck to the Broncos,I cant wait for Dallas pick

[HBK-79]

I brought this up because a majority of Kelly's competitors are performing in large venues now. Just look at Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, P!nk, Rihanna, etc. I really don't think Kelly should be left out.

In fact- The only female pop artist that can't sell out decent-sized venues is Avril Lavigne....Go figure.

[ericb]

you have a great point,i dont think she should be left out either,she CAN definatly do it.

[Artamous]

again not to be negative but if she can sell out places like these, pepsi center being the one by me, why didnt she sell 5000 tickets and sell out the smaller venue here? Maybe in some real big cities she might have luck.

Part of it with above mentioned artist is they are still pretty new (lady gaga especially), part of it being "sexy" with shows (gaga, beyonce rihanna & katy).

It doesnt help when she lets so much time go between albums as with nothing new people out for new music buy other artist (part of avrils problem too) Taylor has but out 3 albums in about 5 yrs & bascially been touring 2 years, I have taken nieces to see her 2 yrs in a row and Kelly has only been her twice over 6 yrs

finally if you go look at the albums of each artist you will see they all have their hit album(s) they built their fanbase with and stuck with the music that made them a huge success and keep the fanbase (taylor, pink, rihanna). Kelly really hasnt had an album similar to breakaway which was her big success and makes changes with each, change music & fanbase changes so she doesnt hold all of her previous fanbase. My December was such a drastic change and lost kelly alot of her youngest fanbase and once lost not always easy to get back.

[HBK-79]

Even better. I once dreamed that Kelly would someday become so massively popular that she could embark on an All-Stadium Tour World Tour (like U2 and Madonna)!

And Kelly would hit the majority of these cities-

United States

Foxborough- Gillette Stadium
East Rutherford- MetLife Stadium
Pittsburgh- Heinz Field
Chicago- Soldier Field
Minneapolis- Target Field
Philadelphia- Lincoln Financial Field
Landover- FedEx Field
Nashville- LP Field
Atlanta- Georgia Dome
Miami- Sun Life Stadium
Houston- Reliant Stadium
Dallas- Cowboys Stadium
Phoenix- University of Phoenix Stadium
Las Vegas- Sam Boyd Stadium
Santa Clara- Santa Clara Stadium
Los Angeles- Farmers Field

Canada

Toronto- Rogers Center
Quebec City- Plains of Abraham
Winnipeg- Investors Group Field
Edmonton- Commonwealth Stadium
Vancouver- BC Place Stadium

Europe

Rome- Stadio Olimpico
Milan- San Siro
Udine- Stadio Friuli
Turin- Juventus Stadium
Naples- Stadio San Paolo
Berlin- Olympiastadion
Munich- Olympiastadion
Hamburg- Imtech Arena
Düsseldorf- Esprit Arena
Frankfurt- Commerzbank-Arena
Amsterdam- Amsterdam ArenA
Brussels- Koning Boudewijn Stadion
Paris- Stade de France OR Arena 92
Nice- Grand Stade
Barcelona- Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys OR Estadi Cornellà-El Prat
Madrid- Estadio La Peineta
Bilbao- Estadio San Mamés
Lisbon- Parque da Bela Vista
Porto- Estádio do Dragão
Zürich- Letzigrund
Genève- Stade de Genève
Horsens- CASA Arena Horsens
Århus- NRGi Park
Olso- Valle Hovin
Stockholm- Friends Arena OR Stockholmsarenan
Helsinki- Olympiastadion
Chorzów- Stadion Śląski
Warsaw- Stadion Narodowy
Vienna- Ernst Happel Stadion OR Donauinsel
Pargue- Chodov Natural Amphitheatre
Budapest- Stadion Puskás Ferenc
Belgrade- Red Star Stadium
Split- Stadion Poljud
Tallinn- Tallinn Song Festival Grounds
Moscow- Luzhniki Stadion
Cluj-Napoca- Cluj Arena
Sofia- Vassil Levski Stadion
Istanbul- Türk Telekom Arena
Athens- Olympiakó Stádio "Spiros Louis"
Cardiff- Millennium Stadium OR Cardiff City Stadium
Sheffield- Don Valley Stadium
Glasgow- Hampden Park
Dublin- Croke Park OR Aviva Stadium
London- Wembley Stadium OR Olympic Stadium

New Zealand & Australia

Auckland- Mount Smart Stadium
Melbourne- Etihad Stadium
Sydney- ANZ Stadium
Brisbane- Queensland Sport and Athletic Centre
Adelaide- Adelaide Oval

Asia

Singapore- National Stadium
Taipei- Taipei Dome
Seoul- Seoul Dome
Manila- Philippine Arena
Saitama- Saitama Super Arena
Yokohama- Nissan Stadium
Beijing- National Stadium
Shanghai- Shanghai Stadium

Latin America

Mexico City- Estadio Azteca
San José- Estadio Nacional de Costa Rica
Lima- Estadio Nacional de Peru
Bogotà- Simón Bolívar Park
Santiago- Estadio Nacional de Chile
Buenos Aires- River Plate Stadium
La Plata- Estadio Ciudad de La Plata
São Paulo- Estádio do Morumbi

South Africa

Johannesburg- Orlando Stadium
Cape Town- Cape Town Stadium

Middle East

Tel Aviv- Ramat Gan Stadium

[HBK-79]

It doesnt help when she lets so much time go between albums as with nothing new people out for new music buy other artist (part of avrils problem too) Taylor has but out 3 albums in about 5 yrs & bascially been touring 2 years, I have taken nieces to see her 2 yrs in a row and Kelly has only been her twice over 6 yrs

I don't quite get it. With the exception of Kelly and Avril, Taylor Swift is the only female artist that doesn't use "sexiness" during her concerts. Yet Taylor sells out multiple nights in big arenas.

Is it because Taylor constantly puts out new music? Is it because Taylor doesn't really change her sound?

EDIT: I think Taylor incorporates elaborate stage sets, dancers, pyro, costume changes, and stage props into all her concerts. I guess all that jazz adds to her live-show appeal.

finally if you go look at the albums of each artist you will see they all have their hit album(s) they built their fanbase with and stuck with the music that made them a huge success and keep the fanbase (taylor, pink, rihanna). Kelly really hasnt had an album similar to breakaway which was her big success and makes changes with each, change music & fanbase changes so she doesnt hold all of her previous fanbase. My December was such a drastic change and lost kelly alot of her youngest fanbase and once lost not always easy to get back.

Are you saying that most female pop artists are able to sell out big venues because they all recycle the same sound over and over again?

Are you saying that Kelly (and Avril) has a shifting fanbase because she keeps changing her sound with every album?

[Artamous]

I think Taylor frequently putting out albums, holding her fanbase staying country/pop country along with continually touring helps big time. She does have fancy sets & dancers but that is not what sells the tickets. I go to see the artist & at Taylor concert I had terrible seats and really didnt see much of the dancers anyhow. Taylors shows she also puts moore to it than just the next song and has a few stories and including of the fans. She didnt play many more songs but her show lasted an hour longer tha Kelly's. It helps you remember her show a little more and when she tours 2 yrs in a row you are ready to go again remembering the last one. She has put out 3 albums in 4 yrs and and album/dvd combo of her recent tour. Kelly should put out a dvd too. This is just extra exposure, keeps the fans going and following even closer

Yes the fanbases shift as the music style shifts. As I said above when she did breakaway she had fans of all ages then the change she made with her MD album was fairly drastic/big and the younger didnt get it or like it so she lost a lot of her younger and the younger got into things like hannah montana at that time that blew away MD with sales and there was a new hannah movie album every year keeping the fans while we waited about 3 yrs for Kelly. Her next album really wasnt to similar to MD so her fans of the darker music werent as much of a support. Taylor has made little change other than making it where so many songs were totally country to a pop/country but still some total country as part of the albums.

Go look at some of the most successful artist out there and you will notice they had a type of music their fans liked when having their first hit album and stuck with it. How much of a music change do you see with the beatles, rolling stones, genesis, phil collins, elvis, journey? These are all older groups from the 60's & 70's/80's that are still huge sellers today. other than the beatles & elvis all have gone on tour in the last 6-8 yrs & still sell out a lot. These classic groups cost even more to go see than current artist like Kelly & Taylor. They found their niche and stuck with it. I still buy their albums & have my nieces/nephews into it and their support continues & grows. What if rolling stones or journey tried putting out a country album or something similar to MD? It just wouldnt sell

In my opinon if Kelly would have added a few extra songs to MD such as Don't and a few similar to breakaway it would have done better and kept more of her younger fans

[HBK-79]

Go look at some of the most successful artist out there and you will notice they had a type of music their fans liked when having their first hit album and stuck with it. How much of a music change do you see with the beatles, rolling stones, genesis, phil collins, elvis, journey? These are all older groups from the 60's & 70's/80's that are still huge sellers today. other than the beatles & elvis all have gone on tour in the last 6-8 yrs & still sell out a lot. These classic groups cost even more to go see than current artist like Kelly & Taylor. They found their niche and stuck with it. I still buy their albums & have my nieces/nephews into it and their support continues & grows. What if rolling stones or journey tried putting out a country album or something similar to MD? It just wouldnt sell

I would have to disagree somewhat. Legendary artists like U2 and Madonna have a history of changing their overall sound in order to keep themselves fresh. They advance their music, and never recycle the same type of music over and over again.

I admire Kelly for NOT ripping herself off with every album. Unfortunately, she just doesn't have a loyal fanbase.

[ericb]

I would have to disagree somewhat. Legendary artists like U2 and Madonna have a history of changing their overall sound in order to keep themselves fresh. They advance their music, and never recycle the same type of music over and over again.

I admire Kelly for NOT ripping herself off with every album. Unfortunately, she just doesn't have a loyal fanbase.

I agree with you,and disagree with you.Kelly doesn have a loyal fan base,believe me.probably more loyal than those of alot of famous people.But she has seeemed to have lost SOME fans though,some people can be fickel,love you one day,hate you,or at least indifferent toward you the next,but thats gonna happen with everyone.And like you,i admire kelly for NOT ripping herslf off too